Dear Mubashar Dar Saheb,
Assalamoualaikum Warahmatullah Wabarakaatuhu
I thank you again for your invitation for an Interview with this humble one in the Jamaat Ahmadiyya Al Mouslemeen.
AhmadiyyaNews:
Brother
Munir Ahmad Azim Sahib would you please tell us what circumstances lead
your disassociation from the Ahmadiyya community and encouraged youto
create your own Jama'at?
Munir Ahmad Azim:
Allah
had given Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad a great favour of writing a big book
"Knowledge, Rationality and Truth" to explain that the door of
Prophethood, Divine revelations is never closed but when Allah put him
on trial (when I wrote to him and told him that I am receiving Divine
Revelations) He chose not to believe me and expelled me along with my
brother Hazrat Mokarram Amir'oul Momeneen Zafrullah Domun from the
Nizam-é-Jamaat. This means that he did not put into practice what he
had preached for all these years of his Khilafat.
I
am not against Khilafat. That is why with trust in Allah and as Mirza
Tahir Ahmad was the Khalifa at that time, and under divine
instructions, I informed the Khalifa about what Allah had revealed to
me at that time. He chose to listen to the lies of his Amir of
Mauritius, Additional Vakilul Tabshir, and did not care to listen to my
versions of things and condemned us (my brother and I) without having
listened to us. But they will bear the consequences of their own evil
actions because Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad based his decisions on the
false report of his Amir (Mauritius).
"But
those who reject Our signs and turn away from them with disdain, -these
are the inmates of the Fire; they shall abide therein". (Ch.7, V.37)
"Those
who reject Our signs and turn away from them with disdain, the gates of
spiritual firmament will not be opened for them, nor will they enter
Heaven until a camel goes through the eye of a needle. And thus doWe
requite the offenders" (Ch.7, V.41)
Even
at that moment, we continued to go to the various branch in Mauritius
to perform Salaat-ul Jummah but one day on the Occasion of Eid-ul Adha
of the year 2001, the Amir of Mauritius gave orders to close the Mosque
where we were going to perform our Eid prayers. A rare happening
indeed. An Ahmadi Amir, Mr Amine Jowahir, acted like a non- ahmadi from
Pakistan by closing a mosque on Eid Day so that an Ahmadi may not pray
in it.
Later
on in 2003 Allah comforted me and ordained me to form my own Jamaat,
the True Jamaat of Hazrat Massih Ma'oud Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) - True
in the sense that it is the Jamaat Ahmadiyya Al Mouslemeen who will
revive the teachings of the Promised Messiah (a.s) that the people had
trampled to dust. Allah Himself gave the name of "Jamaat Ahmadiyya Al
Mouslemeen" to all true believers of Islam, Hazrat Massih Ma'oud (a.s)
and this humble one.
AhmadiyyaNews:
Do you consider yourself a follower of the Promised Messiah a.s. or your teachings are different from him in any regard?
Munir Ahmad Azim:
I
am the follower of my Aka (master) Hazrat Muhammad Mustapha (s.a.w) and
the follower of Hazrat Massih Ma'oud, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) and my
teachings are not different from them. Instead I have come from Allah
to consolidate and stand as a witness to the truthfulness of their
claim.
I am both a Mohyuddin and a follower of Hazrat Muhammad (s.a.w) and Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s).
AhmadiyyaNews:
What
is your opinion towards the Khulafa of the Jama'at Ahmadiyya. Their
ability and approach towards achieving the ultimate victory of Islam
and Ahmadiyyat as prophesied by the Promised Messiah a.s.?
Munir Ahmad Azim:
I
believe in the Khalifas of Jamaat Ahmadiyya like I said above: Hazrat
Moulvi Hakim Nooruddin, Hazrat Mousleh Ma'oud Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood
Ahmad, Hazrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad, and also Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad.
Although
they were not directly divinely appointed by God Almighty, Allah was
their help as long as they were on the right path and preaching the
true teachings of Islam. Allah gave them true dreams and revelations to
help them in their task, because they were righteous in their devotion
to help the cause of Allah Ta'ala and Allah blessed them with great
knowledge and Insight. But please remember one thing:-
Allah says in the Holy Quran, Chapter 29 (Al-Ankabut), V.2-3:
"Do
men think that they will be left alone because they say, 'We believe',
and that they will not be tried? And We did try those who were before
them. So Allah will assuredly know those who are truthful and He will,
assuredly, know the liars".
Allah
will always try (test) the people who say that they are propagating
Tawheed. In the past, Allah tested His various prophets like, Hazrat
Adam, Ibrahim, Hazrat Ismael, Hazrat Musa, Hazrat Haroon, Hazrat Nuh,
Hazrat Yunus, Hazrat Yusuf, and Hazrat Suleiman etc... Some of them at
one time in their life received reprimand from Allah for not obeying
His commands (like Hazrat Adam, Hazrat Yunus, Hazrat Suleiman etc...)
and Allah punished them (where Hazrat Suleiman from being a king became
a beggar, Hazrat Adam was banished from the place Allah had chosen for
him, HazratYunus was pushed from the ship he was in and a whale
swallowed him) but after they repented Allah forgave them and gave them
back their honour and status as prophets of God.
So,
Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad also, like a servant of Allah, like a guardian
of Deen-é-Islam was bound to be tried by Allah. Once in a Khutba
Jummah, he said that 52 persons were getting revelation in the Jamaat é
Ahmadiyya but when I informed him about my revelations, he turned his
back on it and labeled these revelations as "so-called revelations" and
he said that we (I and my brother Hazrat Mokarram Amir'oul Momeneen
Zafrullah Domun) will encounter a fearful destiny.
As
a spiritual father of Jamaat é Ahmadiyya, he should not have said this.
Instead Allah had given him two ears to hear both my version and the
version of his dear Amir, but he did not even take the trouble to hear
my version to know the truth and he based himself on the report full of
lies of his Amir, and expelled my brother and I from the Nizam-é-Jamaat.
It
is through this matter that I got a clash with him, because Jamaat
Ahmadiyya had spent more than 100 years to make people understand that
the doors of prophethood is never close, but when Allah tried them and
sent at the beginning this humble one, they calumniated me and expelled
me from the Nizam-é-Jamaat. It is in the times of Darkness that Allah
raises His Messenger/s to revive the lost teachings of Tawheed. And we
are in this present era living in darkness where the whole world has
been plunged into darkness and none can save it except the Mercy of
Allah through His Messengers.
As
for the 5th Khalifa-tul Massih of Jamaat é Ahmadiyya I will not
pronounce anything for the moment because till now he has not said
anything either negative or positive on my claim. I had written to him
but he kept his silence and even when last December he came to
Mauritius for the Annual Jalsa Salana of Ahmadiyya Muslim Association,
he did not come forward to know the truth about my claim as a recipient
of Divine revelations having got a Divine Mission.
AhmadiyyaNews:
Do
you claim to be the same Musleh Maud as prophesied by the Promised
Messiah a.s.? If not then what title do you hold and for what divine
mission your appointment has been made?
Munir Ahmad Azim:
On
the 20th February 2004, Allah gave me the title of Musleh Ma'oud. I
believe firmly that Allah has the capacity to raise more than one
messenger, prophet, Mujjaddid, Muhyi-uddin, Massih, Mahdi, Musleh
Ma'oud. Hazrat Massih Ma'oud (a.s) said:
"It
must be borne in mind that the expression 'the Imam of the age'
comprises prophets, messengers, muhaddaseen and reformers, all of them
Those who are not Divine appointed for the reform and guidance of
mankind and are not invested with the requisite excellences, cannot be
describedas Imam of the age even if they are saints and abdal"
(Zurooratul Imam)
All
these titles denote one mission that is to bring mankind towards the
Unicity of Allah (SWT). And Allah can send these messengers (be it one,
two, three, or more) in the same epoch to work together to propagate
Tawheed "La-Ilaha Illallah". And I believe also in the claim of Hazrat
Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad as being a Musleh Ma'oud and in his
times, he had done great works and planned to make Islam (through the
advent of his father as the Promised Messiah of his time) wake up after
its long sleep.
Hazrat
Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad (r.a) said in a meeting at Hoshiarpur
on the 20th February 1944: "I do not say that I am the only Promised
One and that no other promise done will appear till the Day of
Judgement. It appears from the prophecies of the Promised Messiah that
some other promised ones will also come and some of them will appear
after centuries. Indeed, God has told me that at one time He will send
me a second time to the world and I will come for the reform of the
world at a time when association with God will have become widespread.
This means that my soul will, at some time, descend upon someone who
will possess faculties and capacities like mine and he will, following
in my footsteps, bring about a reform of the world. Thus, promised ones
will appear in their due times according to the promise of God Almighty"
When
a messenger of Allah comes into this world he does not bring anything
new. The teachings already exist, but it is man, through time who
tramples hese teachings under their feet and brings bid'at
(innovations) into the pure religion of Islam. Allah has raised me as
Hazrat Mokarram Amir'oul Momeneen KhwajaMuhyi-uddin Khalifatullah,
Musleh Ma'oud, Siraj-um Munir, and Qamaram Munira of this Era.