Comments:
Sep 01, 2006
Mubashar daar sahab
aap
kiss zamaney ki baat kartey hain wo zamaney tu kab k gaye aur wo loog
tu kab k duniya sey gaye jin ki waja sey jamaat ka wajood kaiem tha aur
shaeed aaj bhi jo jamaat ka wajood hai wo unheen meharbanon ki duaon
aur karmoon ki waja sey hai warna hum aaj kiss pani main hain yeh hum
khud bhi jantey hain haan magar yeh alag baat hai keh jantey howay bhi
ankheen band kar k khud ko dhooka dey rahey hain, leekin kab tak? kabhi
tu apna muhasiba karna hi parey ga na...aaj jamaat ka har banda kissi
na kissi rang main jamati tour tarekon sey nalaan nazar aata hai kissi
na kissi tarha iss jamaat main kaiem jageedarana nazam sey khaief hai.
aur agar koi zikar karoo tu baat aa jati hai keh khilafat ki tabidari
par. khilaafat ki hawa bana kar apna mufaad nikaltey hain mujhey yeh
samjh nahen aati keh agar Hazrat umar bin khitab k samney kharey ho kar
koi aam insan sawal kar sakta tha aur wo bina mind kiya jawab dey
saktey they tu aaj apni jamaat main chotey chotey uhdedaar sey hi sawal
kar k deekh leen essey ankhen dikhatey hain keh pata nahen kia gunah
kar diya ho khilafat sey sawal karney ka tu sawal hi peeda nahen hota.
jab kissi chootey motey president sey swal kar k taan khilafat ki
aataaat par aa jati hai tu baki ka tu sawal hi nahen peeda hota na. yeh
nazam jamaat ko gulamana zehniat deeney ki eik karri hai warna islam
main tu jamhoori nazam diya tha jiss ki masaleen buhat hain magar hum
ney khud ko gulam bana diya hai aur baat kartey hain aataat ki..aur yeh
pata tak nahen keh kia aataat iss ko kehtey hain?????
(Please do not disclose my Name but the Site can Publish these information.)
Translation to English:
(The
times you are talking about have gone long time. Those people have gone
as well, who use to uphold the high values and teachings of Ahmadiyyat.
Even the existence of the jama’at today depends upon the sincere
prayers and efforts of those pious and kind hearted pioneers of
Ahmadiyyat, otherwise we are fully aware of the kind of qualities
we posses today. We know that by closing our eyes on the current
situation, we are misleading ourselves but until how long? We know we
have to analyze our behaviour some time down the road. Today every
Ahmady is concerned and complaining one way or the other against the
sub standards which our Jamaat has adopted in our daily practice. When
it comes to the rules and procedures , every one is scared off in one
way or the other by the aristocratic behaviour of our Jamaat . If you
try to express your concerns in anyway then the issue of the obedience
of the Khalifa is raised in front of you. They are benefiting through
the abuse of the title of the Khilafa.
I
don’t understand if an ordinary person at one time had the courage to
question the Khalifa Hazrat Ummar Bin Khatab face to face and the
Khalifa would respond to the question without being malicious, then how
come even the minor authorities of our jama’at would stare at us as we
have committed some kind of a sin by asking them a question. The
question to Khalifa however, never exists.
When
questioning an Amir ends up on the issue of the obedience of Khilafat,
then there is no way to question Khilafat at all. This is an attempt
towards the conspiracy of creating slavery in the name of the Nizam
Jama’at otherwise there are many examples, which reflects the
democratic nature of the religion of Islam. We have adopted the slave
like nature and talk about the obedience and don’t even know what the
obedience is all about.)
Editor:
Brother
your analysis is very close to the reality. Now when the danger is in
front of us we can’t close our eyes. We will crash in to it anyway.
That’s where we have to pay a little more attention, as you have
yourself mentioned its need for some time in the future. This is the
time when the true leaderships are tested.
All
signs showing that we as a Jama’at are at the brink of a disaster. Any
one person can not force the required improvements in the system
specially when the Ahmadiyya establishment is strongly in favour of the
status quo. We have been aware of the kind of persecutions, the
Prophets of Allah have gone through during their struggle in favour of
the improvements in the situations caused by the religious
establishments like ours.
Unless
Ahmadies like yourself join hands in some way to organize an opposition
against the army of Ahmadiyya Missionaries, who are on one hand
protecting the Yazeed like Khulafa for their share in the corruption
and on the other hand promoting and spreading the misleading faith
among the ordinary Ahmadies in order to provide strength to the Mafia
like Nizam Jama‘at.
As far as the position of the Promised Messiah a.s. is concerned in the
current situation, he have acknowledged the above fact in one of his
revelation when he said that “these Ullema’s have changed the look of
his house”. We know that his house is his Jama’at.
Comments:
Sep 09, 2006
To: ahmadiyyanews
Subject: AN observation
Dear AhmadiyyaNews
I
have been reading your posts and I have to say something to you. What I
am saying is with complete honesty and sincerety. I may be wrong so
please don't get annoyed as it is just my observation and opinion.
In
my opinion, after you were refused entry in the Ahmadi Jalsa last year,
the public humiliation has caused a severe traumatic stress in you.
Your behavior in my opinion shows signs of "Chronic Post-Traumatic
Stress Disorder".
You
can read more on this issue or consult your physician. For more info I
am posting a link that will give you more info on this.
www.ncptsd.va.gov/facts/g..._ptsd.html
again it is just an observation so please don't get annoyed.
From: SearchingForTruth.
Editor:
Thank
you Brother for your sincere comments and your concerns towards my
state of mind. Such effects may occur with some individuals as a result
of such incidents but I don’t find such is the case with me. I may have
had a temporary effects on me but never felt its severe ness as
you have mentioned.
The
reason may have been that I was expecting such humiliating actions from
the current Ahmadiyya establishment. The Ahmadiyya establishment
consists of Khulafa from the family and their imposed force of
Missionaries have adopted such a negative attitude against the
concerned Ahmadies right after the death of the 1st Khalifa. They
realize that they can not run the Jama’at according to their plans
without such humiliating and punishing tactics against those, who do
not blindly follow their commands and instead use their brains and ask
un-pleasant questions.
I
knew that sooner or later I would have to face such a negative attitude
from the establishment as the Islamic values of freedom of speech,
expression, writing and the allowance of the freedom of conscience
along with a word of truth against the tyrant dictators has become a
forbidden tree in Ahmadiyyat.
Since
the strong love and devotion I have for Islam and Ahmadiyyat, I was
committed to serve my conscience on any cost and adopt the narrow paths
with full of persecution as described by the Holy Prophet (slaw) and
the Promised Messiah a.s. to expose the un-holy plans of the Khandani
Khulafa and their established force of Missionaries at the expense of
the well being of the Jama’at and the innocent Ahmadies for their greed
of power, status and money.
On
the other hand if had no such plans and such an incident have occurred
to me than your opinion may have based on some solid grounds but since
I know myself my strengths and my faith on Allah and the agenda in
front of me so I assure you that the above mentioned incident have not
negatively effected me and have only encouraged me to raise my voice
even louder.
Comments:
September 24, 2006
This
is my first kind. I am from Indian origin and like you dont know good
English. May I give a realistic view of a website like yours:
Recently
I visited Qadian also.Some of your observations are astonishingly
correct here too- a lavish life style of some Muballighs, that makes
them more devils than waliullas-(Alas walait was wished by
Masseehemoud.)
One
Mian Mirza Wasim of Qadian the Amir,even in his late 70's, is very
strong, unchallengeable, poses like additional-khalifa, enjoys touring
everywhere in country and abroad but hardly ever found in Qadian; acts
at his own sweetwish to appoint/disappoint, loves flattery wants to see
nothing but chamcha Nazirs around him. Despite a lot of MIan's
drawbacks Khalifa finds himself powerless to depose him! He is heir
legally in India and can create diaster if removed. Now wait for Mian's
natural death if it ever comes! Till then Jamaat at Qadian goes
unsupervised but a few stableones bear the flag due to their own
qualities and sacrifices.
I
will write more to you because Your site is a good mirror if jamaat
wants to see transparency it will be benifitted; but my precondition is
you must make it less obnoxious by not personally attacking and
insulting Kholafaas which even at the depth of your heart you too love
them. After all they were and 5th is also humanbeing.You dont know
their compulsions. May Allah help.(please delete all derogatory
articles phrases from your site)
e.g.They
say: Khalifa,in order to minimise pilferage advises 3 Nazirs to check
and sign the verification of money bills but alas what they do
here-Mutually cooperative countersigning of eachother's bills without
checking and then giving MEGAlectures of honesty when stand in the
MOsques!
For
Khilafat's help you too might have actually sacrificed yourself for
some truth to be brought home. May Allah forgive you and reward you too.
All moslems should unite forgetting their differences; the enemies of peace are already too united against them!
-B. Ahmed.
(Site can Publish my Name and these informations)
Editor:
Brother
B. Ahmed, its an honour for the Ahmadiyyanews to hear the words of
appreciation and criticism from you. The description of your opinion
and comments well describe the state of the Jama’at Ahmadiyya in
general and the Jama’at in India particularly.
The
disorganization in the Jama‘at, flaws in their structure and
dictatorial behaviour of the establishment reflects through their
practices is the direct result of the Mafia like upbringing and
training methods, which had been used in shaping up of the kind of
Jama’at Ahmadiyya we have today.
Although
we would like to hear from you in the future but can not issue a
licence of justification to our imposed Khulafa from the family, who
are entering from the back door and their self created force of
Missionaries, who are gradually being imposed over every Ahmady Jama’at
to protect the interests of the family and run it on the pattern of a
peeri Mureedi style.
The
only path of Imam Hussain have been left for us until we well come the
Promised Musle Maud in our Jama’at. Ahmadiyyanews will continue its
struggle through pen to apply the pressure on the establishment lead by
Khandani Khalifa to dismantle their self created Electoral College and
establish a true representative body of Majlis Shura in order to truely
represent the Khalifa of our beloved Jama't.
We
will also continue the pressure on the Khandani Khalifa to stop
imposing Missionaries and their family members as Amir over the
Ahmadiyya Jama’ats and allow ordinary Ahmadies to elect the Amir’s of
their choice.
Comments:
October 02,2006
Brother, assalmo alakoom.
I
am so happy that you start this mission. Poor pepal Kick out from Jamat
and Rabwah and you see the reaction in 1974,how the people are happy in
Rabwah (open city)
Jamat
forgot this lesson. Please complete this mission until Jamat finish
give punishment out of Jamat.Is this is ISLAM, That we are afaried ,We
do not want to tell name. God bless you
Please do not disclose my Name but the Site can Publish these information.
Editor:
The
pleasure is mine Brother. Actually I think I have been pushed in to
this situation. Personally I am not a very religious person. I strongly
believe on Hazrat Mirza Sahib a.s. and Ahmadiyyat. I consider myself as
secular and Political person by nature.
I
strongly believe that Islam is the champion, when it comes to the Basic
Human Rights, Justice, Fairness and equality. Islam and now the true
version of Islam, which is Ahmadiyyat have been disgraced and
humiliated due to the reasons that we have left the above mentioned
values.
My
fight along with those, who believe upon the above mentioned values
will continue against the imposed Khulafa from the family and their
aide Missionaries until the Ahmadiyyat become free from their
illegitimate control and the Mafia like system they have established.
Although
we do believe that it is the job of the Promised Musle Maud to free
slaves from the slavery but being concerned Ahmadies our efforts should
move in that direction. I believe soon we will be approaching to the
point where our message will be spreading very rapidly and the future
writers of the Ahmadiyya history would remember us for out efforts and
sacrifices with great respect and dignity. Thanks for your appreciative
words.
Comments:
October 08, 2006
Your
website was read with interest. I do not certainly agree with many of
your views. Of course, I do agree to wonder why an Ilaahi Jamaat has to
exaggerate its achievements out of proportions to reality and sing
songs of such a level of praise which the leaders are yet to reach. It
certainly is neither a wise preaching propaganda stunt nor a taqwaa of
humbleness and only annoys Allah. May be due to Allah's displeasure,
despite huge amounts of financial sacrifices of the poor and the rich
of Jamaat recently the programs in subcontinent are reaching nowhere.
Past successes are not present's credit! In offices of Jamaat here
hardly any sincere work is being done; everyone there is just passing
time by pleasing and praising the superiors aiming at month-end
salaries. Abroad, too, ample-funds only manage building new beautiful
Mosques and purchase of lands but where is humble truthful Taqwa to
show how many free broadminded whites out of one billion, you impressed
to join Islam in last 20 years. It is a big shame. Then what is that
Jamaat and its leaders are proud of? They should be humbly confessing
the truth and crying at the feet of Allah, that He may alone do
something. They should stop making big claims of self righteousness and
call others' worship-salaat and soum as mere show. Do they know or
Allah knows the best? Rather most of Jamat's activities are ending up
as mere show businesses!
You
keep talking about Shura and democracy. Rubbish! All shuras seen here
in sub continent are only show-off and eyewashes. The decisions are
prewritten rather preprinted and "delegates" (coming on Jamat's
expenditure) are permitted to talk(bark), but have to sign only on
those preprinted decisions made by chamcha nazirs. Then this would be
sent to Khalifa for approval. I don't know when on earth Khalifa will
wake up to the fact that precious Jamaat's resources are being wasted
like that. In this world none is permitted by Rasoolullah to disobey
Khalifa. But Khalifa can not go scot-free in front of Allah. On the day
of Judgement only Mohammed and only Mohammed rasool-ullahs.a.w. will be
spared-he too in a sajda. All others including Prophets and Khalifas
along with common people will be presented like criminals. Even a
common man who did his duty of obedience to Khalifa in this world but
failed to get justice from Khalifa may win his case there and Khalifa
may get the punishment! Such is the state of Khalifa, he is on a
throne, of thorns not roses. May Allah soon purge and revolutionize
this Jamaat.-a sincere humble ahmadi
Please do not disclose my Name but the Site can Publish these information.
An Ahmedi from India
Editor:
Your
concerns are legitimate in few areas but do not make any sense in some
other areas. You are absolutely right, while talking about the current
state of the leadership of the Jama’at and their misleading propaganda.
You are also right about describing the feet liking humiliating
attitude, which the Uhdedars of the Jama’at have adopted towards their
higher officials. You have correctly framed the picture, which is
reflecting the attitude of our Jama’at.
Freedom
of thoughts have been promoted in Islam and while respecting your
opinions, I would differ from you in some areas. For example you have
mentioned a complete and un conditional submission is required for the
Khulafa. In my opinion actually their obedience is conditional and
limited only to the popular ( Maruf ) decisions. Let me ask you a
question. Do you believe General Musharf has been sincere to the cause
of Islam or Pakistan? You must need to ponder upon this question from
different angles and your answer to this question will help you to
understand the situation of our Jama‘at.
The
blessings of Allah lies in the following of a just and fair system. The
systems are always more beneficial then the personalities. The
structure of the Electoral College would reveal to you the deficiencies
lies in it and would prove to you the facts how un-just and un-fair the
process of the election of a Khalifa is in our Jama‘at.
As
far as the issue of the Majlis Shura is concerned. we believe in an
elected Majlis Shura through the use of a democratic procedure from the
bottom to the top. I wonder why it would not make any sense to anyone.
Comments:
October 12, 2006
You are the biggest looser and your face is the index of your sick mind.
You
are doing all this to hide your failures in your life due to your on
bad nature and the bad decisions you made for yourself and your family.
May God have mercy on your family, but you are doomed on the day of judgement.
AHMAD
Editor:
We
appreciate your feelings and comments brother. You may have been
closely attached to the Mirza family or Missionaries, that’s why you
are hurt so badly. I have never been against to the ordinary Ahmadies
and infect our mission at the Ahmadiyyanews is to free ordinary
Ahmadies from the slavery created by the Mirza family in cooperation
with the Missionaries (Ullema‘s So).
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